Saturday, October 11, 2008

Obama or McCain?

Come on people, get a clue... It doesn't matter one iota. The difference between these two is minuscule and they are both being groomed/have agendas set by TPTB.

Regardless of how idealistic their vision or what empty promise they sell you, these two are both raking in ~ $50 MILLION a MONTH in campaign contributions. Do you think it's the little guys who are funding this?


The little folk are concerned with keeping jobs and homes; putting gas in the car and food on the table - they're too damned broke to donate sums like this (over a $ BILLION dollars this year - just for these two candidates).

Ultimately, one of these two will owe a lot of favors when elected...

Please do yourself a favor: read the following quote from 1934 and then think long and hard about the words and how they apply to our lives in the US today:

"Capital must protect itself in every way...Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd." -- Taken from the Civil Servants' Year Book, "The Organizer" January 1934.

What do you think they mean by "dividing the people"? How about: "expending energies fighting over questions of no importance"?

I suggest you just turn on the daily TV election news and the answer to these questions will slap you right across the face.

Bottom line:

There is no difference between these two... They are not in control of their own destiny and their strings are and will continue to be pulled by other forces/controls. The powers that be want us to think that somehow our vote can make a REAL difference in the world, yet we are merely dividing our energies over two people who are both bought and paid for - by the same folks.

Think about it.


PDM said...


"The National parties and their presidential candidates, with the Eastern Establishment assiduously fostering the process behind the scenes, moved closer together and nearly met in the center with almost identical candidates and platforms, although the process was concealed as much as possible, by the revival of obsolescent or meaningless war cries and slogans (often going back to the Civil War). … The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. … Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies." - Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time

Anonymous said...

How about voting for Sen. Bob Barr? He's also running for president...

Anonymous said...

I respectfully disagree with your opinion. I think there are vast differences between the Republicans and Democrats, and this election is going to be the most important one in a long time.

Dave said...

For years I've been saying it doesn't matter whether figurehead #1 or figurehead #2 gets elected. Either way, the powers behind the throne, the ones who finance their campaigns, are the same. And these financiers get to "vote" every single day.

That's why I urge people to not vote, but instead make donations to organizations they support. That's a far more effective way to "vote" than going to the polls, and it's the way the system actually works.

Voting at the polls is nothing more than a placating distraction. Voting at the polls is what the PTB reserve for "us"; voting with money is what they reserve for themselves.

What's more, "voting" via donation lets one vote as if from a menu. Instead of voting for an entire party's platform, one can pick and choose which issues to support. For instance, over the years I've given money to myriad, seemingly contradictory causes, including the NRDC, the NOW, the ACLU, the NRA, and many more. And each one of these donations keeps on "voting" for me year after year.

And yes, I do follow my own advice: I do not vote at the polls, but with money.


Dave said...

Oh, and one more important observation.

The 2006 election was a MANDATE to withdraw from Iraq. What happened? Congress increased funding for the war!

Public opinion was against the banking bailout bill by 10-to-1, yet Congress basically flipped us off and passed it anyway.

These two lessons alone should convince people that we no longer have representation. Anyone still naively harboring that fantasy is beyond hope.


jerry said...

The mandate to leave Iraq was thwarted by a lack of majority votes in Congress to succeed with the Democratic call to leave the mess. The Blue Dog Democrats, often barely won their elections from Republican districts, stayed conservative thinking that that was the best tactic. Unfortunately, they were so short sighted and could not see that the economic disaster wave was about to engulf them. Many of those same Blue Dogs voted against the bail-out package.

There are very different positions taken by the two big parties. Obama would offer more of an opportunity once president to take a scalpel to the bail-out bill and do what is necessary to fix the problems, if by then, it can be fixed. Our economy maybe very damaged by January 20, 2009, that it cannot be done without drastic surgery. Jared Bernstein and other open-minded economists have Obama's ear. There is not one economist that has not been part of the problem that talks to McCain. He is a trickle-down, no-regulation fool. Remember that! He has said just those words.

McCain wants to further the Bush agenda. That is clear. Extend the tax-cuts and make them permanent. Yet, this dumb fool thought tax cuts were a bad idea in 2001 and 2003 with a war beginning, and other negative economic signs being flashed. But now, with a full blown disaster sweeping the globe, he wants to make them permanent and give more breaks to corporations who already have been subsidized by the taxpayers. McCain--why were tax cuts bad then, but good now when things are even worse?

Dave, and others, this is just one clear reason McCain cannot be elected president, either by throwing away a vote to a 3rd party during a time when gambling was shown to be a failure, or by just casting it in his camp during a time when his skills, or lack thereof, are incompetent. I believe that if the Democrats had a chance to take the White House, and the Congress, then they would have to put up or shut up. We already know how the Republicans brought us to this point in the crisis with their majority and influence. It is time to see if the Democratic party can do what they keep saying they can do. A third party candidate cannot win this time around. We all know that. We do not have the luxury to cast a principled vote at this point in a dramatic time in our lives and the lives of the younger generation.

And then, there is the strong chance that McCain will not be able to fulfill his term. My guess is that his cancer will get the best of him and Palin will be moved into his soiled seat. Do YOU ALL want that? Speaking of incompetent? Do you want a person who believes that a witch-doctor was good for her career?

It is time EVERYONE keeps their head clear and remain objective.

Anonymous said...

This, I'm sorry, is ignorant. The way out of all this mess (if there is one) is to let the market work. Let the bad investment folks get what's coming to them and let the responsible folks keep their money. You want to go for centralized socialism?!? Wealth redistrobution?!? Idiot.