Monday, November 03, 2008

Quote: The Decline of Great Civilizations

With a historic election at hand tomorrow, the following quote may provide you with some food for thought.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

The above quotation is old, and most people have attributed it to Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee (1747-1813), a Scottish attorney and writer, although it has been attributed to several other men as well.


Anonymous said...

"From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury..."

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Justin_n_IL said...


LOL, I was thinking Obama as I clicked to see the comment. An excellent and insightful quote. I've noticed a lot of such quotes that came in abundance in the 1700s.

Concerning the 200 years bit, another great change is at hand. I believe it to be THE GREAT CHANGE. One that leads to TRUE liberty, peace, and prosperity for those who inhabit the earth in the wake of it all a.k.a. the meek.

Anonymous said...

I think this touches upon a much larger issue than the American civilization. The views of the Permaculture revolution say that the human population as a whole is peaking, along with fossil fuel supply. This is supported by the views of Gaia theory, which say that we have overstayed our welcome. The most pressing threat to us Americans may be the collapse of the dollar, but it is by no means the most critical. The wave of supply-side deficiencies that are currently experienced in several other countries, and about to be experienced here in the USSA, is but a teaser of what is soon to come.

As Randy once said "Keep your powder dry", and in addition "Buy some seeds".

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Amos said...

This will not succeed in fact, that's what I suppose.


Borrow and spend long enough whats next default.