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Saturday, February 14, 2009
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Armageddon Thru To You
If you've been wondering why it seems like the world around us is unraveling, it's because the last days as foretold in the bible are now upon us. Just as it was 2000 years ago, many were unable to discern the signs of Jesus Christ's first coming (Mat 16:3), as will many concerning his second coming, which will occur very soon. Yes many have proclaimed a similar sentiment many times in the past, but their errors have no bearing on today other than to lull you into spiritual apathy, and that too was prophesied to occur in the last days.
If you're not a believer in Jesus Christ because you're an atheist, consider that the underlying impetus for your disbelief is most likely borne of pride and here's why:
When we die, if you as an atheist were right, then there is no upside or downside for anyone regarding the afterlife. We will all simply cease to exist
However if we Christians were right about our belief in the afterlife, then we will be given eternal life and you as an atheist will receive eternal damnation
Given the choices, the position held by an atheist is a fools bet any way you look at it because the atheist has everything to lose and nothing to gain. It is tantamount to accepting a “heads I win, tails you lose” coin toss proposition from someone. And that someone by the way is Satan (see Ephesians 6:12).
The only way to explain the attitude held by an atheist is pride, pure and simple. The intellectually dishonest and/or tortured reasoning used by atheists to try and disprove the existence of God is nothing more than attempts to posture themselves as superior (a symptom of pride). And as anyone who has read their bible knows, this is precisely the character flaw that befell Lucifer, God's formerly most high angel. (Isaiah 14:12-15). Is it any wonder then why the bible is so replete with references to pride as the cause of mankind's downfall?
Pride permeates our lives and burdens us in ways that most of us seldom recognize. Ironically, pride is the one thing that can blind someone to things even the unsighted can see. And sadly pride will blind many with an otherwise good heart, to accepting the offer of eternal salvation that Christ bought and paid for with his life.
In any event, if you're an atheist, I wish you only the best for every day of the rest of your life because for you, this life is as close to heaven as you'll ever get, but for believers in Christ, this life is as close to hell as we'll ever get.
If you're not a believer and follower of Jesus Christ because you are of another faith, please take the time to very carefully compare your faith to Christianity and ask yourself, why is the bible the only religious book with both hundreds of proven prophecies already fulfilled as well as those being fulfilled today? No other religion can claim anything remotely close to this fact. Many Christians who are serious students of bible prophecy are already aware of the role and significance of bible prophecy in foretelling end time events. God gave us prophecy as evidence of his divine holiness to know the begining from the end (Isa 46:10). God also believed prophecy to be so important that to those willing to read the most prophetic book in the bible, the Book of Revelation, he promised a special blessing (see Rev 1:3), and this is the only book in the bible that God gives its reader a special blessing for reading. Something to think about.
Don't risk losing Christ's offer of eternal life by not accepting him as your savior and by thinking that the bible is nothing more than a compilation of unrelated and scattered stories about people who lived 2,000 plus years ago. If you take the time to study (not just read) the bible, you will literally be shocked to learn things you would have never imagined would be revealed in it. Did you know that like parables, God also uses particular months and days in the Jewish calendar, Jewish Feasts and customs, solar and lunar phases, celestial alignments, gematria (Hebrew numerology) early bible events and more as patterns and models to foretell future events?
Consider the following interesting facts about the bible that testify to its God-inspired authorship:
Did you know that in Gen 12:2, God said he would bless Israel?. How else can you explain the grossly disproportionate level of success achieved by Jewish people as a tiny minority in the world, especially after all they have gone through? And how can you explain the success achieved by the tiny nation of Israel, surrounded by enemies outnumbering them 100 to 1 and yet still they remain victorious in all their wars?
Did you know that as evidence to indicate that Israel is the epicenter of the world from God's point of view is the fact that languages to the west of Israel are written and read from left to right as if pointing to Israel, and languages from countries to the east of Israel are written and read from right to left, again as though pointing to Israel. Just a coincidence, you say? I think not.
Did you know that the six days of creation and seventh day of rest in Genesis is a model for the six thousand years of this age (ending very soon), that is to be followed by a 1,000 year millennial reign by Christ (see 2 Peter 3:8)? Adam was born sometime prior to 4000 B.C., therefore our 6000 years are almost up.
Did you kow that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is hidden in the meaning of the Hebrew names listed in the genealogy of the book of Genesis (Research it online)? To deny this was God-inspired, one has to instead believe that a group of Jewish rabbis conspired to hide the Christian Gospel right inside a genealogy of their venerated Torah, which is not a very plausible explanation.
Did you know that solar eclipses, which the bible describes as the sun being black as sackcloth, and lunar eclipses, which the bible refers to as blood red moons, have prophetic meaning? Research it online. God showed Adam (and us) his plan for man's redemption through the use of celestial alignments. (research Mazzaroth online)
Did you know that much of the symbolism in the book of revelation refers to planetary alignments that will occur when certain events occur as prophesied? These planetary alignments also explained the birth of Christ, just search out The Bethlehem Star movie on the Internet.
Did you know that the references in Eze 39:4-17 and Rev 19:17-21 in the battle of Gog/Magog and Armageddon respectively, in which birds of prey will eat the flesh of the dead in battle from two enormous wars is based on fact? The largest bird migration in the world consisting of bilions of birds (34 species of raptors and various carrion birds) from several continents converge and fly over Israel every spring and fall. Coincidence? I think not.
Did you know that Hebrew numerology, also known as Gematria, and the numbers with biblical and prophetic significance are hidden in the Star of David? Google the video called "Seal of Jesus Christ"
Did you know that the seven Churches mentioned at the beginning of the Book of Revelation describe the seven stages the Church will go through?
There are literally hundreds of hidden messages in the bible like these that testify to the fact that the bible was God inspired, and statistically speaking, are all exponentially beyond the likelihood of any coincidence. You can find them yourselves if you only take the time to look into it. Remember Proverbs 25:2 "It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings".
And finally, if you are Catholic, or one who subscribes to the emergent Church or seeker-friendly Church movement, please compare the doctrine taught, advocated or accepted by your Church, with the actual bible, notwithstanding some new-age version of the bible. And remember that although the bible is often referred to as the living bible, the word "living" was never intended to imply in any way that the bible "evolves" over time to meet, or be consistent with, the standards of man. It's just the opposite.
Well, am I getting through to you? If not, the answer might be explained in the response given by Jesus Christ in his Olivet discourse when he was asked by his disciples why he spoke the way he did (in parables, etc.) in the book of Matthew 13:10-16. What Jesus said could have easily been paraphrased more clearly as "so that the damned won't get it". Why did Christ respond the way he did when asked why he spoke this way? Is there something about pride (the bible says there is) that closes one's heart to seeing or hearing the messages supernaturally hidden in bible parables, models, typologies, and similes, etc.? That should give you something to think about, but don't take too long. Time is now very short.
If it sometimes seems like there are powers at work behind the powers we know, remember what it says in Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." If you study the bible, it will become clearer.
And by the way, if you are a scoffer, this too was prophesied to occur in the last days. See 2 Peter 3:3.
Thank you and God Bless you! Armageddon.thru.to.you (at) gmail.com
Armageddon, I doubt this is the forum for spewing religious sentiment, but I cannot let the above post pass!
I will despise with my whole heart anything that presumes to control my behaviour and my freedom. I am solely guided by my self-conscience and know from the depths of my heart what is right and what is wrong. I do not need the teachings of the Bible nor do I need Christ to exist (either 2000 years ago or now) to affirm the divinity within myself.
Hence, I refuse to accept somebody's judgement if the basis of that judgement is not my deeds but my beliefs. Believers in Christ are free to believe in him, as must non-believers be free to not believe in him.
Judgement day is not one day for the whole of mankind, but it is faced by every man at the time of his death. Separately and individually. Every man and woman is accountable to God. Not for his/her beliefs, but for his actions and deeds. If you tell me that Jesus has the power to wash my evil deeds away, and protect me at (my) judgement day, then you are trying to delude me and almost certainly deluded yourself. A promise of washing away of my sins only makes me do more evil, as, by definition, I only have to believe in Jesus to be no longer unaccountable for any of my horrible deeds!
If the Bible makes you a moral, ethical and good person, by all means use it. But please do not presume that everyone in this world requires the Bible to be moral and ethical. Nor, again, may you presume, that for some reason, non-believers in the Bible and Christ are doomed (beyond their death, that is). If the Bible teaches it is OK to get rid of non-believers in Christ by killing them, then I would advise you stay away from the Bible, as any religion that tells you to kill people is merely a tool for mind control, not a gospel of God.
The "damned" do not see the hidden messages in the Bible? What a quaint way of saying that those who see the Emperor has no clothes cannot speak out for fear of being branded liars! Is this how the Bible says God will treat non-believers of Christ? Is Truth the Intellectual Property of Bible writers? Unfortunately, the more loudly you proclaim that you are the whole and sole treasurer of the truth, the bigger the liar you are. History records how the Church has persecuted anybody who has opposed its mind control idealogies. Galileo was imprisoned by the Church for discovering and believing that Earth revovled around the Sun! Even today, the Church tells scientists to not research into what existed before the Big-Bang! It is afraid that any discovery of existence of the universe (in whatever state it was) before the Big-Bang will upset its apple cart of mind control which currently interprets the Big-Bang to be the Biblical origin of God's creation!
Most of the other anecdotes given by you can be explained easily either as co-incidences or as subsequent twisting of the interpretation to suit real occurences.
There are no supernatural things in this world, nothing miraculous, unless you realize that everything is miraculous and supernatural. Even the existence of a mere stone is miraculous! How was it created? How does it sustain its existence in space and time? A mere thought from God can end all creation...in less than a fraction of a nanosecond! Yet creation exists, in grand harmony, melody, and beauty.
And yet you presume that this earth, the seas, the mountains, the sky, millions of species of life, the advanced and evolved species of Man are merely natural and Jesus is supernatural??? Come on!! See beyond the surface appearance of things, occurences, and people, and realize that you are here to experience the joyous creations of God, YOUR Life! Nothing else matters. Your judgement day is when your life ends and you go back to Him. No offense to your beliefs, but Eternal Life (if such a thing exists) cannot be a gift of Christ, it must be granted by God Himself. Christ cannot be his stand-in, no matter what the Bible says.
No point in trying to speculate how God will judge billions of other men & women on their Judgement day. You do not truly know how they have led their lives...neither can the Bible profess to know. And again, holding the idea that Jesus or the Bible will help people bypass their true sentence on their judgement day by merely getting them to believe in Christ is deceptive at best and dangerous at worst. Dangerous not only to the people who may put their faith in Christ, but also to people who may be affected by these believers. For, if I am a believer in Christ and believe that Christ will grant me eternal life and happiness after my death, why shouldn't I stop my evils and misdeeds while I am living? I can continue lying, thieving, killing, adultering, and generally living a wretched life here and now, as long as I firmly believe in Christ and his ability to rescue me on my judgement day!
And finally, the jews are not Gods favoured people, the are merely smart people who stick together and work for their own community. The tiny nation of Israel survives amidst bigger and more powerful enemies only because it has acquired the support and backing of more powerful men here in the Untied States. Most likely by putting pro-Israeli men and women in power. Also likely by controlling their minds using the same story of the Bible,Jesus and Judgement Day that you are telling us right now.
Your example of language direction as a measure of Israel's greatness is funny at best! Large parts of Russia are to the east of Israel. Japan, China, India are to the east of Israel. With the exception of Urdu, all have languages that are written from left to right or top to bottom.
Marc Faber--the US has already defaulted on debt. It is only paying out some interest owed. Hyper-inflation--a 5th grader could tell you that, too. Once the products that are in over-supply run out, their prices will go up. No doubt, there will be many products that will not see a reduction in their over-supply for years, if ever. And, then again, those items that really have an extremely short over-supply, like radishes and things, will see less inflationary increases. There is a 13 month backlog on new home construction. And, there are millions of current car models sitting in huge lots (acreage) all around the world. Who will buy them?
I just love these bobbleheads that think they know something the rest of already know from just waking up in the morning.
Maybe I am just getting sick of hearing the same old babble coming from the same old mouths. Really, no one is really trying to change the root causes and massive problems for one simple reason---The Republicans and their big corporate sponsors in the financial and Wall Street offices don't want to see labor empowered by a ground up manufacturing sector jump-start so America can once again make things we all use and need everyday, such as food items, and make our own energy independent products so as to come off of oil, which would leave out many of our foreign trading partners that add to our trade deficit.
By keeping labor down, wages stay down, and workers cannot save, but must borrow from the bankstas fueling the Ponzi Scheme, once again.
It is real simple. That is the reason why nothing is really going to change. The crisis will only deepen over the coming couple of years. And then. once the protesters in the streets get heard, like what is going on in Europe, will anything really begin to change.
Republicans and their big corporate sponsors in the financial and Wall Street offices?
LMAO.... Oh I guess it's a "Republican" problem...hmmmm Give me a break. The Bankers and their fellow elites grease both sides of the aisles. Republicrats...
In late 1998, while Washington was in the throes of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Rahm Emanuel, a departing senior political aide to President Bill Clinton, ventured out to an elegant restaurant in Dupont Circle for something of a job interview.
John Simpson, who ran the Chicago office of the investment banking boutique Wasserstein Perella & Company, had flown to Washington to meet with Mr. Emanuel at the behest of Mr. Simpson’s boss, Bruce Wasserstein, a major Democratic donor and renowned Wall Street dealmaker who had gotten to know Mr. Emanuel.
“I had this idea that this could work and that it had upside,” said Mr. Wasserstein, now chairman and chief executive of Lazard, the investment bank. “It worked out better than I could have hoped.”
And better than Mr. Emanuel could have imagined as well. Over the course of a three-hour-plus dinner, Mr. Simpson and Mr. Emanuel discussed how they might work together. Shortly afterward, Mr. Emanuel accepted an offer, nudging him down what has by now become a well-trodden gilded path out of politics and into the lucrative world of business.
Mr. Emanuel, who was chosen last month to become President-elect Barack Obama’s White House chief of staff, went on to make more than $18 million in just two-and-a-half years, turning many of his contacts in his substantial political Rolodex into paying clients and directing his negotiating prowess and trademark intensity to mergers and acquisitions. He also benefited from the opportune sale of Wasserstein Perella to a German bank, helping him to an unusually large payout.
The period before he was elected to a House seat from Illinois is a little-known episode of Mr. Emanuel’s biography. Former colleagues said the insight it afforded him on the financial services sector is invaluable especially now. But Mr. Emanuel built up strong ties with an industry now at the heart of the economic crisis, one that will be girding for a pitched lobbying battle next year as the incoming Democratic administration considers a potentially sweeping regulatory overhaul.
After Mr. Emanuel left banking to run for Congress, members of the securities and investment industry became his biggest backers, donating more than $1.5 million to his campaigns dating back to 2002, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Armageddon - as a Christ follower myself I take offense at your comments. Why? Because Jesus himself admitted even he didn't know when his second return would occur. He said only the Father knew that information. So, what makes you smarter than Jesus? Hmmmmm? Signs of the times? What about 70 A.D. talk about signs of the times, the Romans sacked Jerusalem, tore town the temple and massacred thousands. And what about the thousands of Christ followers who were martyred over the centuries? Don't you think their world was roiled in crisis? Yet with all those examples of crisis still no second coming.
You should become familiar with Church History and the various viewpoints (there are 5 major views) of Christ's second coming. You might be surprised to learn that your Dispensational viewpoint is considered by many in the historic orthodox Christian Faith to be an American heresy.
Christ might well come back tomorrow but not because of the current crisis or any other historical crisis and certainly not because you think you read it in the tea leaves.
Frankly your views make other Christ followers look like extremists and alarmists. Instead of inviting unbelievers to thoughtfully consider the claims of Christ, your approach drives them away. Way to go!
For the rest of the readers I would point out that even a light reading of Church History will reveal that in every crisis prophets of doom emerged proclaiming the second return of Christ was at hand. Our current depression is no different and will produce many more voices proclaiming the immenient return of Christ and all the trimmings that go along with it. Therefore, as a Christ follower, I apologize in advance for the behavior of my fellow misguided Christians who will attempt to use and abuse current events to make unfounded claims. Please forgive us.
I was not going to say anything but so much for that. While there is plenty that I and Mr. Armageddon disagree on the same goes for Mr. Tawney. You make it sound as if JESUS is going to come like a thief in the night. That much is true. However he will come as a thief to only those who walk in darkness. Darkness being the carnal mind. There are those who dwell in heaven and those who dwell in the earth. The first being the spiritually minded and the latter being the carnally minded. To back up my position I'll leave the following verses. Pay close attention to verse 4.
1 Thessalonians 5
1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
The reality is that most of this nation is made up of either registered Democrats or Republicans. Therefore, we will find individuals wanting greasy palms each and everyday. But one must remember, that the laws made in Congress have been made for most of the last 30 years by Republicans and signed by Republican presidents.
Those suits and skirts working Wall Street streets nationwide were only doing what the Republican Congress, and Presidents that made up most of those 30 years gave them permission to do. Clinton has as much blame as any. He presided over a Gingrich revolution in Congress, as well.
let's review the 30 year back-story. Alan Greenspan, a Ph.D. from the Chicago School of Economics, free-marketeer and laissez-faire capitalists joins up with Ronald Reagan, and becomes our Fed Chairman and set economic policy for 30 years. He believed in economic bubbles and low, give-away interest rates.
This continued until it exploded until 2007 when Bernanke, a Greenspan follower, stepped in after Greenspan and followed through with the marching orders.
For 30 years, Republicans were dictating the free-market, laissez-faire form of economic policy. So when everyone is given permission, both party individuals do it, too. When given permission to over fish the waters, if you don't over fish, even though you may feel it to be wrong and unsustainable, then either you do it too in order to say in business, or you quit and do something else.
So, in my opinion, Republicans brought this about, with of course, help with many Democrats, including Clinton.
I'll take your following statement one step farther.
"So, in my opinion, Republicans brought this about, with of course, help with many Democrats, including Clinton."
The root of that problem owes much to willful ignorance, greed, and all manner of selfishness. Concerning those the blame can be spread from Joe Common all the way to the top of the Presidency.
Right on, Justin! If Joe and Jill did not go up the Hill and drink from that fetched pail of kool-Aid, all might be much better. But, who was really out there to say don't do it? The cash was flowing throughout the land. Americans would have told the doomsayers, and stormwatchers that they were crazy.
Did Bush heed the warning that "planes were to be flown into NYC"? Did loud voices warn Eisenhower that once you put "consultants" in Vietnam, we would end visiting a death wall in Washington, DC?
Were there protesters marching against exburbia and its ultimate ruin? And, were there loud credible and honorable voices saying that the Greenspan Bubbles would create an economic firestorm the size of Australia. No.
So, the people had no leaders to wake them up to the approaching firestorm, and the political capitulators were right there to call the opposition and naysayers crazy. So, who were we to believe? Really, the people were the victims of a huge, monstrous Ponzi Scheme and they did not know it. They were too busy working jobs, and making sure their kids would not get into trouble, since both parents were working long days.
The blame MUST go to those we elect to protect the nation from national security risks and they failed. And now, those say Republican Talibanistas in the House of Representatives, and all but 3 Senators all voted NO because they STILL want tax cuts for their rich pals on Wall Street.
First, the picture does say it all. Of course, the blame lies with the ignorant American public, that once again voted for style instead of substance. Legitimate candidates like Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Chuck Baldwin and Ralph Nader were ignored by the ecectorate. The US will become a third world country, which is exactly what a country where a majority of people who are interested in Fantasy Football and American Idol deserves.
Second, I want to thank Mr.Tawley for his response. It's encouraging to know that not all Christians are Israeli puppets and some can think for themselves. For the rest of you, I ask - Do you realize that you're being manipulated? Do you realize that Israel, the country you and your preachers give unconditional support to, rejects Christ as the son of God? Do you realize the control the Israeli lobby AIPAC has over our elected representatives? These people are elected to represent Americans, not a foreign agent. Do you realize that Israel has violated more international laws than any country in the world? Do you know that the Israeli occupation and settlement of the West Bank and blockade of Gaza violate internation law? Do you know that Israel kills and dispossesses the tiny Palestinian Christian community just like it does Muslims? Do you realize that the only reason Israel exists is because it is on American life support? The US gives Israel billions of dollars, which it then uses to buy weapons to murder civilaians in the West Bank, Gaza, and Lebanon. The US also uses its UN veto to prevent the rest of the world from punishing Israel for its crimes against humanity. Wake up!
The present symbolism depicting the relationship between the government and the citizen is that the head of the government, the President of the United States, has at his disposal, with no objection from anyone, Air Force One, which is a Boeing 747 jet plane that costs hundreds of millions of dollars and, when configured for commercial operation, carries more than 450 passengers. At the same time, howls of anger and fury go up when one of the largest private corporations in the country dares to order a 12-seat jet plane for $50 million.
The acceptance of this relationship symbolizes the total reversal of the relationship between government and citizen that the founding of our country was intended to establish and maintain. The symbolism appropriate to that relationship would be that while private citizens are free to fly in 747s, or Lunar Landers for that matter, depending only on how successful is their individual pursuit of happiness, the President of the country, who is merely the chief night watchman of the nation, and is its servant, is consigned to a 12-seater jet.
FT getting a link by Drudge, but he doesn't highlight the money graf. Chinese banking commissioner Luo Ping uses what is described as colloquilism when he states for the record "We hate you guys". LOL, I'm sure they do. They are conceding being over a barrel for now though, and will continue to buy debt in the near term. Buying us a little more time in the process. China to stick with US Bonds
I guess we have to take Mike Shedlock's word for it, since the $16.3 T reference is now gone.
There is no doubt that the world, even China with its Billion people are extremely nervous over the pending massive economic deleveraging, consumer spending brake squeal, and the closing down of jobs, institutions, and a consumer fueled, with easy credit way of life.
The Demoservatives in the White House and the Talibanistas in Congress, are afraid to change the status quo in a radical way. This will last a while.
I am getting used to it now, and calming down. It is like being in canoe going down a fast moving river dotted with rocks and changing current, you just need to sit back, pay attention, hold on to the paddle and guide the boat through the turbulence until quiet water in finally reached.
my word verification is lickable, for what it's worth.
On the topic of the 16.3 trillion debt in Europe: Click here and see the first comment from Coffin Dodger. He has an earlier version of the weblink as mentionend below.
There's a 2 hr. piece on Old Hickory playing on the History Channel tonight. It's half way through as of right now. With it being the History Channel I'm sure it's set for playback later in the evening.
Armageddon Thru To You - excellent post. Those that can not receive the Word spoken in this post, all we can do is pray for them. The Holy Spirit will do His vital work with them through ways we can not understand!
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Armageddon Thru To You
If you've been wondering why it seems like the world around us is unraveling, it's because the last days as foretold in the bible are now upon us. Just as it was 2000 years ago, many were unable to discern the signs of Jesus Christ's first coming (Mat 16:3), as will many concerning his second coming, which will occur very soon. Yes many have proclaimed a similar sentiment many times in the past, but their errors have no bearing on today other than to lull you into spiritual apathy, and that too was prophesied to occur in the last days.
If you're not a believer in Jesus Christ because you're an atheist, consider that the underlying impetus for your disbelief is most likely borne of pride and here's why:
When we die, if you as an atheist were right, then there is no upside or downside for anyone regarding the afterlife. We will all simply cease to exist
However if we Christians were right about our belief in the afterlife, then we will be given eternal life and you as an atheist will receive eternal damnation
Given the choices, the position held by an atheist is a fools bet any way you look at it because the atheist has everything to lose and nothing to gain. It is tantamount to accepting a “heads I win, tails you lose” coin toss proposition from someone. And that someone by the way is Satan (see Ephesians 6:12).
The only way to explain the attitude held by an atheist is pride, pure and simple. The intellectually dishonest and/or tortured reasoning used by atheists to try and disprove the existence of God is nothing more than attempts to posture themselves as superior (a symptom of pride). And as anyone who has read their bible knows, this is precisely the character flaw that befell Lucifer, God's formerly most high angel. (Isaiah 14:12-15). Is it any wonder then why the bible is so replete with references to pride as the cause of mankind's downfall?
Pride permeates our lives and burdens us in ways that most of us seldom recognize. Ironically, pride is the one thing that can blind someone to things even the unsighted can see. And sadly pride will blind many with an otherwise good heart, to accepting the offer of eternal salvation that Christ bought and paid for with his life.
In any event, if you're an atheist, I wish you only the best for every day of the rest of your life because for you, this life is as close to heaven as you'll ever get, but for believers in Christ, this life is as close to hell as we'll ever get.
If you're not a believer and follower of Jesus Christ because you are of another faith, please take the time to very carefully compare your faith to Christianity and ask yourself, why is the bible the only religious book with both hundreds of proven prophecies already fulfilled as well as those being fulfilled today? No other religion can claim anything remotely close to this fact. Many Christians who are serious students of bible prophecy are already aware of the role and significance of bible prophecy in foretelling end time events. God gave us prophecy as evidence of his divine holiness to know the begining from the end (Isa 46:10). God also believed prophecy to be so important that to those willing to read the most prophetic book in the bible, the Book of Revelation, he promised a special blessing (see Rev 1:3), and this is the only book in the bible that God gives its reader a special blessing for reading. Something to think about.
Don't risk losing Christ's offer of eternal life by not accepting him as your savior and by thinking that the bible is nothing more than a compilation of unrelated and scattered stories about people who lived 2,000 plus years ago. If you take the time to study (not just read) the bible, you will literally be shocked to learn things you would have never imagined would be revealed in it. Did you know that like parables, God also uses particular months and days in the Jewish calendar, Jewish Feasts and customs, solar and lunar phases, celestial alignments, gematria (Hebrew numerology) early bible events and more as patterns and models to foretell future events?
Consider the following interesting facts about the bible that testify to its God-inspired authorship:
Did you know that in Gen 12:2, God said he would bless Israel?. How else can you explain the grossly disproportionate level of success achieved by Jewish people as a tiny minority in the world, especially after all they have gone through? And how can you explain the success achieved by the tiny nation of Israel, surrounded by enemies outnumbering them 100 to 1 and yet still they remain victorious in all their wars?
Did you know that as evidence to indicate that Israel is the epicenter of the world from God's point of view is the fact that languages to the west of Israel are written and read from left to right as if pointing to Israel, and languages from countries to the east of Israel are written and read from right to left, again as though pointing to Israel. Just a coincidence, you say? I think not.
Did you know that the six days of creation and seventh day of rest in Genesis is a model for the six thousand years of this age (ending very soon), that is to be followed by a 1,000 year millennial reign by Christ (see 2 Peter 3:8)? Adam was born sometime prior to 4000 B.C., therefore our 6000 years are almost up.
Did you kow that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is hidden in the meaning of the Hebrew names listed in the genealogy of the book of Genesis (Research it online)? To deny this was God-inspired, one has to instead believe that a group of Jewish rabbis conspired to hide the Christian Gospel right inside a genealogy of their venerated Torah, which is not a very plausible explanation.
Did you know that solar eclipses, which the bible describes as the sun being black as sackcloth, and lunar eclipses, which the bible refers to as blood red moons, have prophetic meaning? Research it online. God showed Adam (and us) his plan for man's redemption through the use of celestial alignments. (research Mazzaroth online)
Did you know that much of the symbolism in the book of revelation refers to planetary alignments that will occur when certain events occur as prophesied? These planetary alignments also explained the birth of Christ, just search out The Bethlehem Star movie on the Internet.
Did you know that the references in Eze 39:4-17 and Rev 19:17-21 in the battle of Gog/Magog and Armageddon respectively, in which birds of prey will eat the flesh of the dead in battle from two enormous wars is based on fact? The largest bird migration in the world consisting of bilions of birds (34 species of raptors and various carrion birds) from several continents converge and fly over Israel every spring and fall. Coincidence? I think not.
Did you know that Hebrew numerology, also known as Gematria, and the numbers with biblical and prophetic significance are hidden in the Star of David? Google the video called "Seal of Jesus Christ"
Did you know that the seven Churches mentioned at the beginning of the Book of Revelation describe the seven stages the Church will go through?
There are literally hundreds of hidden messages in the bible like these that testify to the fact that the bible was God inspired, and statistically speaking, are all exponentially beyond the likelihood of any coincidence. You can find them yourselves if you only take the time to look into it. Remember Proverbs 25:2 "It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings".
And finally, if you are Catholic, or one who subscribes to the emergent Church or seeker-friendly Church movement, please compare the doctrine taught, advocated or accepted by your Church, with the actual bible, notwithstanding some new-age version of the bible. And remember that although the bible is often referred to as the living bible, the word "living" was never intended to imply in any way that the bible "evolves" over time to meet, or be consistent with, the standards of man. It's just the opposite.
Well, am I getting through to you? If not, the answer might be explained in the response given by Jesus Christ in his Olivet discourse when he was asked by his disciples why he spoke the way he did (in parables, etc.) in the book of Matthew 13:10-16. What Jesus said could have easily been paraphrased more clearly as "so that the damned won't get it". Why did Christ respond the way he did when asked why he spoke this way? Is there something about pride (the bible says there is) that closes one's heart to seeing or hearing the messages supernaturally hidden in bible parables, models, typologies, and similes, etc.? That should give you something to think about, but don't take too long. Time is now very short.
If it sometimes seems like there are powers at work behind the powers we know, remember what it says in Ephesians 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." If you study the bible, it will become clearer.
And by the way, if you are a scoffer, this too was prophesied to occur in the last days. See 2 Peter 3:3.
Thank you and God Bless you!
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The United States Is In Deep Doodoo!
Willy2,
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Justin
Peter Schiff on 2009-2010 USA Hyperinflation
Armageddon, I doubt this is the forum for spewing religious sentiment, but I cannot let the above post pass!
I will despise with my whole heart anything that presumes to control my behaviour and my freedom. I am solely guided by my self-conscience and know from the depths of my heart what is right and what is wrong. I do not need the teachings of the Bible nor do I need Christ to exist (either 2000 years ago or now) to affirm the divinity within myself.
Hence, I refuse to accept somebody's judgement if the basis of that judgement is not my deeds but my beliefs. Believers in Christ are free to believe in him, as must non-believers be free to not believe in him.
Judgement day is not one day for the whole of mankind, but it is faced by every man at the time of his death. Separately and individually. Every man and woman is accountable to God. Not for his/her beliefs, but for his actions and deeds. If you tell me that Jesus has the power to wash my evil deeds away, and protect me at (my) judgement day, then you are trying to delude me and almost certainly deluded yourself. A promise of washing away of my sins only makes me do more evil, as, by definition, I only have to believe in Jesus to be no longer unaccountable for any of my horrible deeds!
If the Bible makes you a moral, ethical and good person, by all means use it. But please do not presume that everyone in this world requires the Bible to be moral and ethical. Nor, again, may you presume, that for some reason, non-believers in the Bible and Christ are doomed (beyond their death, that is). If the Bible teaches it is OK to get rid of non-believers in Christ by killing them, then I would advise you stay away from the Bible, as any religion that tells you to kill people is merely a tool for mind control, not a gospel of God.
The "damned" do not see the hidden messages in the Bible? What a quaint way of saying that those who see the Emperor has no clothes cannot speak out for fear of being branded liars! Is this how the Bible says God will treat non-believers of Christ? Is Truth the Intellectual Property of Bible writers? Unfortunately, the more loudly you proclaim that you are the whole and sole treasurer of the truth, the bigger the liar you are. History records how the Church has persecuted anybody who has opposed its mind control idealogies. Galileo was imprisoned by the Church for discovering and believing that Earth revovled around the Sun! Even today, the Church tells scientists to not research into what existed before the Big-Bang! It is afraid that any discovery of existence of the universe (in whatever state it was) before the Big-Bang will upset its apple cart of mind control which currently interprets the Big-Bang to be the Biblical origin of God's creation!
Most of the other anecdotes given by you can be explained easily either as co-incidences or as subsequent twisting of the interpretation to suit real occurences.
There are no supernatural things in this world, nothing miraculous, unless you realize that everything is miraculous and supernatural. Even the existence of a mere stone is miraculous! How was it created? How does it sustain its existence in space and time? A mere thought from God can end all creation...in less than a fraction of a nanosecond! Yet creation exists, in grand harmony, melody, and beauty.
And yet you presume that this earth, the seas, the mountains, the sky, millions of species of life, the advanced and evolved species of Man are merely natural and Jesus is supernatural??? Come on!! See beyond the surface appearance of things, occurences, and people, and realize that you are here to experience the joyous creations of God, YOUR Life! Nothing else matters. Your judgement day is when your life ends and you go back to Him. No offense to your beliefs, but Eternal Life (if such a thing exists) cannot be a gift of Christ, it must be granted by God Himself. Christ cannot be his stand-in, no matter what the Bible says.
No point in trying to speculate how God will judge billions of other men & women on their Judgement day. You do not truly know how they have led their lives...neither can the Bible profess to know. And again, holding the idea that Jesus or the Bible will help people bypass their true sentence on their judgement day by merely getting them to believe in Christ is deceptive at best and dangerous at worst. Dangerous not only to the people who may put their faith in Christ, but also to people who may be affected by these believers. For, if I am a believer in Christ and believe that Christ will grant me eternal life and happiness after my death, why shouldn't I stop my evils and misdeeds while I am living? I can continue lying, thieving, killing, adultering, and generally living a wretched life here and now, as long as I firmly believe in Christ and his ability to rescue me on my judgement day!
And finally, the jews are not Gods favoured people, the are merely smart people who stick together and work for their own community. The tiny nation of Israel survives amidst bigger and more powerful enemies only because it has acquired the support and backing of more powerful men here in the Untied States. Most likely by putting pro-Israeli men and women in power. Also likely by controlling their minds using the same story of the Bible,Jesus and Judgement Day that you are telling us right now.
Your example of language direction as a measure of Israel's greatness is funny at best! Large parts of Russia are to the east of Israel. Japan, China, India are to the east of Israel. With the exception of Urdu, all have languages that are written from left to right or top to bottom.
Marc Faber--the US has already defaulted on debt. It is only paying out some interest owed. Hyper-inflation--a 5th grader could tell you that, too. Once the products that are in over-supply run out, their prices will go up. No doubt, there will be many products that will not see a reduction in their over-supply for years, if ever. And, then again, those items that really have an extremely short over-supply, like radishes and things, will see less inflationary increases. There is a 13 month backlog on new home construction. And, there are millions of current car models sitting in huge lots (acreage) all around the world. Who will buy them?
I just love these bobbleheads that think they know something the rest of already know from just waking up in the morning.
Maybe I am just getting sick of hearing the same old babble coming from the same old mouths. Really, no one is really trying to change the root causes and massive problems for one simple reason---The Republicans and their big corporate sponsors in the financial and Wall Street offices don't want to see labor empowered by a ground up manufacturing sector jump-start so America can once again make things we all use and need everyday, such as food items, and make our own energy independent products so as to come off of oil, which would leave out many of our foreign trading partners that add to our trade deficit.
By keeping labor down, wages stay down, and workers cannot save, but must borrow from the bankstas fueling the Ponzi Scheme, once again.
It is real simple. That is the reason why nothing is really going to change. The crisis will only deepen over the coming couple of years. And then. once the protesters in the streets get heard, like what is going on in Europe, will anything really begin to change.
Republicans and their big corporate sponsors in the financial and Wall Street offices?
LMAO.... Oh I guess it's a "Republican" problem...hmmmm Give me a break. The Bankers and their fellow elites grease both sides of the aisles. Republicrats...
In late 1998, while Washington was in the throes of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Rahm Emanuel, a departing senior political aide to President Bill Clinton, ventured out to an elegant restaurant in Dupont Circle for something of a job interview.
John Simpson, who ran the Chicago office of the investment banking boutique Wasserstein Perella & Company, had flown to Washington to meet with Mr. Emanuel at the behest of Mr. Simpson’s boss, Bruce Wasserstein, a major Democratic donor and renowned Wall Street dealmaker who had gotten to know Mr. Emanuel.
“I had this idea that this could work and that it had upside,” said Mr. Wasserstein, now chairman and chief executive of Lazard, the investment bank. “It worked out better than I could have hoped.”
And better than Mr. Emanuel could have imagined as well. Over the course of a three-hour-plus dinner, Mr. Simpson and Mr. Emanuel discussed how they might work together. Shortly afterward, Mr. Emanuel accepted an offer, nudging him down what has by now become a well-trodden gilded path out of politics and into the lucrative world of business.
Mr. Emanuel, who was chosen last month to become President-elect Barack Obama’s White House chief of staff, went on to make more than $18 million in just two-and-a-half years, turning many of his contacts in his substantial political Rolodex into paying clients and directing his negotiating prowess and trademark intensity to mergers and acquisitions. He also benefited from the opportune sale of Wasserstein Perella to a German bank, helping him to an unusually large payout.
The period before he was elected to a House seat from Illinois is a little-known episode of Mr. Emanuel’s biography. Former colleagues said the insight it afforded him on the financial services sector is invaluable especially now. But Mr. Emanuel built up strong ties with an industry now at the heart of the economic crisis, one that will be girding for a pitched lobbying battle next year as the incoming Democratic administration considers a potentially sweeping regulatory overhaul.
After Mr. Emanuel left banking to run for Congress, members of the securities and investment industry became his biggest backers, donating more than $1.5 million to his campaigns dating back to 2002, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
In Banking, Emanuel Made Money and Connections
And how about theeeee Obama? Here's some links for the Obamanoids.
Big Donors Among Obama's Grass Roots
Here are some Obama backers and what they donated.
Donor: Goldman Sachs & Co.
How Much: $627,730
Donor: JP Morgan
How Much: $398,021
Donor: Citigroup
How Much: $393,899
Donor: UBS AG
How Much: $378,400
Meet Obama’s Corporate Backers
Armageddon - as a Christ follower myself I take offense at your comments. Why? Because Jesus himself admitted even he didn't know when his second return would occur. He said only the Father knew that information. So, what makes you smarter than Jesus? Hmmmmm? Signs of the times? What about 70 A.D. talk about signs of the times, the Romans sacked Jerusalem, tore town the temple and massacred thousands. And what about the thousands of Christ followers who were martyred over the centuries? Don't you think their world was roiled in crisis? Yet with all those examples of crisis still no second coming.
You should become familiar with Church History and the various viewpoints (there are 5 major views) of Christ's second coming. You might be surprised to learn that your Dispensational viewpoint is considered by many in the historic orthodox Christian Faith to be an American heresy.
Christ might well come back tomorrow but not because of the current crisis or any other historical crisis and certainly not because you think you read it in the tea leaves.
Frankly your views make other Christ followers look like extremists and alarmists. Instead of inviting unbelievers to thoughtfully consider the claims of Christ, your approach drives them away. Way to go!
For the rest of the readers I would point out that even a light reading of Church History will reveal that in every crisis prophets of doom emerged proclaiming the second return of Christ was at hand. Our current depression is no different and will produce many more voices proclaiming the immenient return of Christ and all the trimmings that go along with it. Therefore, as a Christ follower, I apologize in advance for the behavior of my fellow misguided Christians who will attempt to use and abuse current events to make unfounded claims. Please forgive us.
Jim Twamley
I was not going to say anything but so much for that. While there is plenty that I and Mr. Armageddon disagree on the same goes for Mr. Tawney. You make it sound as if JESUS is going to come like a thief in the night. That much is true. However he will come as a thief to only those who walk in darkness. Darkness being the carnal mind. There are those who dwell in heaven and those who dwell in the earth. The first being the spiritually minded and the latter being the carnally minded. To back up my position I'll leave the following verses. Pay close attention to verse 4.
1 Thessalonians 5
1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
Sorry for the misspelling of your name Mr.Twamley.
The reality is that most of this nation is made up of either registered Democrats or Republicans. Therefore, we will find individuals wanting greasy palms each and everyday. But one must remember, that the laws made in Congress have been made for most of the last 30 years by Republicans and signed by Republican presidents.
Those suits and skirts working Wall Street streets nationwide were only doing what the Republican Congress, and Presidents that made up most of those 30 years gave them permission to do. Clinton has as much blame as any. He presided over a Gingrich revolution in Congress, as well.
let's review the 30 year back-story. Alan Greenspan, a Ph.D. from the Chicago School of Economics, free-marketeer and laissez-faire capitalists joins up with Ronald Reagan, and becomes our Fed Chairman and set economic policy for 30 years. He believed in economic bubbles and low, give-away interest rates.
This continued until it exploded until 2007 when Bernanke, a Greenspan follower, stepped in after Greenspan and followed through with the marching orders.
For 30 years, Republicans were dictating the free-market, laissez-faire form of economic policy. So when everyone is given permission, both party individuals do it, too. When given permission to over fish the waters, if you don't over fish, even though you may feel it to be wrong and unsustainable, then either you do it too in order to say in business, or you quit and do something else.
So, in my opinion, Republicans brought this about, with of course, help with many Democrats, including Clinton.
Well noted Jerry. Valid points on your behalf.
I'll take your following statement one step farther.
"So, in my opinion, Republicans brought this about, with of course, help with many Democrats, including Clinton."
The root of that problem owes much to willful ignorance, greed, and all manner of selfishness. Concerning those the blame can be spread from Joe Common all the way to the top of the Presidency.
Bond market calls Fed's bluff as global economy falls apart
Right on, Justin! If Joe and Jill did not go up the Hill and drink from that fetched pail of kool-Aid, all might be much better. But, who was really out there to say don't do it? The cash was flowing throughout the land. Americans would have told the doomsayers, and stormwatchers that they were crazy.
Did Bush heed the warning that "planes were to be flown into NYC"? Did loud voices warn Eisenhower that once you put "consultants" in Vietnam, we would end visiting a death wall in Washington, DC?
Were there protesters marching against exburbia and its ultimate ruin? And, were there loud credible and honorable voices saying that the Greenspan Bubbles would create an economic firestorm the size of Australia. No.
So, the people had no leaders to wake them up to the approaching firestorm, and the political capitulators were right there to call the opposition and naysayers crazy. So, who were we to believe? Really, the people were the victims of a huge, monstrous Ponzi Scheme and they did not know it. They were too busy working jobs, and making sure their kids would not get into trouble, since both parents were working long days.
The blame MUST go to those we elect to protect the nation from national security risks and they failed. And now, those say Republican Talibanistas in the House of Representatives, and all but 3 Senators all voted NO because they STILL want tax cuts for their rich pals on Wall Street.
Randy,
I am very grateful for you blog!! Thank you!!
Does anyone have info on Iceland...? I've read some crazy "rumors", such as large scale riots and no internet.
Captain,
The only thing I've seen on Iceland today is the following.
Iceland is steamed
Dun dun dun dun....dun dun dun duuuuuuuuun
Treasury, Fed unveil $1.5 trillion rescue plan
Here are a bunch of market figures from yesterday-Tuesday--that are worth looking at.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119657-all-eyes-on-washington?source=email
Roubini and Taleb talk
http://seekingalpha.com/article/119643-roubini-and-taleb-together-again?source=email#comment-383851
REPULICRAT....RFLMAO
I have two points -
First, the picture does say it all. Of course, the blame lies with the ignorant American public, that once again voted for style instead of substance. Legitimate candidates like Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Chuck Baldwin and Ralph Nader were ignored by the ecectorate. The US will become a third world country, which is exactly what a country where a majority of people who are interested in Fantasy Football and American Idol deserves.
Second, I want to thank Mr.Tawley for his response. It's encouraging to know that not all Christians are Israeli puppets and some can think for themselves. For the rest of you, I ask - Do you realize that you're being manipulated? Do you realize that Israel, the country you and your preachers give unconditional support to, rejects Christ as the son of God? Do you realize the control the Israeli lobby AIPAC has over our elected representatives? These people are elected to represent Americans, not a foreign agent. Do you realize that Israel has violated more international laws than any country in the world? Do you know that the Israeli occupation and settlement of the West Bank and blockade of Gaza violate internation law? Do you know that Israel kills and dispossesses the tiny Palestinian Christian community just like it does Muslims? Do you realize that the only reason Israel exists is because it is on American life support? The US gives Israel billions of dollars, which it then uses to buy weapons to murder civilaians in the West Bank, Gaza, and Lebanon. The US also uses its UN veto to prevent the rest of the world from punishing Israel for its crimes against humanity. Wake up!
The present symbolism depicting the relationship between the government and the citizen is that the head of the government, the President of the United States, has at his disposal, with no objection from anyone, Air Force One, which is a Boeing 747 jet plane that costs hundreds of millions of dollars and, when configured for commercial operation, carries more than 450 passengers. At the same time, howls of anger and fury go up when one of the largest private corporations in the country dares to order a 12-seat jet plane for $50 million.
The acceptance of this relationship symbolizes the total reversal of the relationship between government and citizen that the founding of our country was intended to establish and maintain. The symbolism appropriate to that relationship would be that while private citizens are free to fly in 747s, or Lunar Landers for that matter, depending only on how successful is their individual pursuit of happiness, the President of the country, who is merely the chief night watchman of the nation, and is its servant, is consigned to a 12-seater jet.
Show Trials with Capitalist Defendants in Shackles
FT getting a link by Drudge, but he doesn't highlight the money graf. Chinese banking commissioner Luo Ping uses what is described as colloquilism when he states for the record "We hate you guys". LOL, I'm sure they do. They are conceding being over a barrel for now though, and will continue to buy debt in the near term. Buying us a little more time in the process.
China to stick with US Bonds
Geral Celente
According to my information the chinese are selling US long bonds and buying short term US bonds. I guess they're getting nervous.
Will Ireland be the next Iceland? Anyone any thoughts?
And what about this:
European bank bail-out could push EU into crisis
Look careful at the weblink, it mentions the words "16.3 trillion bailout".
(Thanks to Mike Shedlock).
I guess we have to take Mike Shedlock's word for it, since the $16.3 T reference is now gone.
There is no doubt that the world, even China with its Billion people are extremely nervous over the pending massive economic deleveraging, consumer spending brake squeal, and the closing down of jobs, institutions, and a consumer fueled, with easy credit way of life.
The Demoservatives in the White House and the Talibanistas in Congress, are afraid to change the status quo in a radical way. This will last a while.
I am getting used to it now, and calming down. It is like being in canoe going down a fast moving river dotted with rocks and changing current, you just need to sit back, pay attention, hold on to the paddle and guide the boat through the turbulence until quiet water in finally reached.
my word verification is lickable, for what it's worth.
Just starting to read this one(compliments of FOFOA). It's grabbed my attention and looks to be a barn burer.
It's Just Time
On the topic of the 16.3 trillion debt in Europe: Click here and see the first comment from Coffin Dodger. He has an earlier version of the weblink as mentionend below.
Inside source reveals FEMA & DHS preparing for mass graves and martial law near Chicago
Randy: Any updates on the February March thing? Looks like the big Reinhardt scare was all about the Bill getting passed, lol!
About changes under the Obama administration and concentration camps in the US: click here .
There's a 2 hr. piece on Old Hickory playing on the History Channel tonight. It's half way through as of right now. With it being the History Channel I'm sure it's set for playback later in the evening.
Armageddon Thru To You - excellent post. Those that can not receive the Word spoken in this post, all we can do is pray for them. The Holy Spirit will do His vital work with them through ways we can not understand!
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